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	<title>Comments on: The choices you make</title>
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	<description>I like music, long walks on the beach, and poking dead things with a stick.</description>
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		<title>By: CosmicBabe</title>
		<link>http://cosmicbabe.greyduck.net/journal/1474/comment-page-1#comment-12305</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicBabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that gets me the most about bicycles slowing down traffic on a busy street is that that particular street is bordered &lt;i&gt;on either side&lt;/i&gt; by several streets that are completely residential and have little to no auto traffic.  Those are the streets that I cut over to when I&#039;m on my scooter, because it saves me a ton of time in avoiding the congested areas, and I do see plenty of bicycles going down those streets.  But no, that particular jerk had to back up auto traffic for several blocks so he didn&#039;t have to go a whopping 1 or 2 blocks out of his way to find a street with virtually no traffic and the same exact speed limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that gets me the most about bicycles slowing down traffic on a busy street is that that particular street is bordered <i>on either side</i> by several streets that are completely residential and have little to no auto traffic.  Those are the streets that I cut over to when I&#8217;m on my scooter, because it saves me a ton of time in avoiding the congested areas, and I do see plenty of bicycles going down those streets.  But no, that particular jerk had to back up auto traffic for several blocks so he didn&#8217;t have to go a whopping 1 or 2 blocks out of his way to find a street with virtually no traffic and the same exact speed limit.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://cosmicbabe.greyduck.net/journal/1474/comment-page-1#comment-12300</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Berkeley (where I&#039;m working these days). You watch the bicyclists repeatedly run traffic signals and you can feel the aura that&#039;s transmitting something like &quot;traffic laws are for CARS&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Berkeley (where I&#8217;m working these days). You watch the bicyclists repeatedly run traffic signals and you can feel the aura that&#8217;s transmitting something like &#8220;traffic laws are for CARS&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CosmicBabe</title>
		<link>http://cosmicbabe.greyduck.net/journal/1474/comment-page-1#comment-12293</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicBabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bicyclists in Portland are SPOILED ROTTEN.  The city mandates bike lanes on a huge percentage of the city streets, and they even have &quot;bike boxes&quot; which are areas at right-turn lanes painted bright green where cars aren&#039;t allowed to pull up to the crosswalk so that bikes can get ahead of them for red lights and right turns.  There&#039;s no bike license or usage fees; therefore the bicyclists are not paying one cent for these privileges.  Currently there are 14 of these boxes on city streets; each cost $4,000 to install and the city spent another $2,500 to film a video on how to use the bike boxes, which is available online at the City of Portland website as well as on YouTube.  That&#039;s nearly $60,000 in taxpayer dollars spent on just the bike boxes -- heaven only knows how much has been spent on bike lanes and paved bike-only paths (several cross the city) in Portland.

I&#039;m constantly almost being run into by bicyclists who are breaking traffic laws -- whether I&#039;m in my car or on my scooter (which I guarantee would injure me if they hit me) -- because they don&#039;t stop for stop signs, won&#039;t bother stopping for red lights on traffic signals if they don&#039;t see any traffic coming, and they completely DO act like they own the road.  They&#039;re especially bad on the residential side streets that don&#039;t have traffic signals, only stop signs (which they blow through).  They aren&#039;t required to have any insurance, so even if &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; are at fault in a collision and the other person is injured or their property is damaged, they get off with -- at the &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; -- a traffic citation &amp; small fine.

Bicyclists whine constantly about bad auto &amp; truck drivers, but above &amp; beyond their own constant breaking of traffic laws, this past year has seen bicyclists &lt;i&gt;physically attacking&lt;/i&gt; cars and their drivers.  One man who was assaulted is a bike activist who was in his car on a family outing, and when he yelled at a bicyclist for breaking traffic laws, the guy piked up his bicycle and beat the man&#039;s car with it, then punched the driver!

To those who say these are the exceptions and not the rule, let me tell them they haven&#039;t spent any significant time driving in Portland.  I&#039;ve seen exactly TWO bicyclists stop for a stop sign in the last year, and both times it startled me so badly that I almost couldn&#039;t believe I&#039;d seen it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bicyclists in Portland are SPOILED ROTTEN.  The city mandates bike lanes on a huge percentage of the city streets, and they even have &#8220;bike boxes&#8221; which are areas at right-turn lanes painted bright green where cars aren&#8217;t allowed to pull up to the crosswalk so that bikes can get ahead of them for red lights and right turns.  There&#8217;s no bike license or usage fees; therefore the bicyclists are not paying one cent for these privileges.  Currently there are 14 of these boxes on city streets; each cost $4,000 to install and the city spent another $2,500 to film a video on how to use the bike boxes, which is available online at the City of Portland website as well as on YouTube.  That&#8217;s nearly $60,000 in taxpayer dollars spent on just the bike boxes &#8212; heaven only knows how much has been spent on bike lanes and paved bike-only paths (several cross the city) in Portland.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m constantly almost being run into by bicyclists who are breaking traffic laws &#8212; whether I&#8217;m in my car or on my scooter (which I guarantee would injure me if they hit me) &#8212; because they don&#8217;t stop for stop signs, won&#8217;t bother stopping for red lights on traffic signals if they don&#8217;t see any traffic coming, and they completely DO act like they own the road.  They&#8217;re especially bad on the residential side streets that don&#8217;t have traffic signals, only stop signs (which they blow through).  They aren&#8217;t required to have any insurance, so even if <i>they</i> are at fault in a collision and the other person is injured or their property is damaged, they get off with &#8212; at the <i>most</i> &#8212; a traffic citation &#038; small fine.</p>
<p>Bicyclists whine constantly about bad auto &#038; truck drivers, but above &#038; beyond their own constant breaking of traffic laws, this past year has seen bicyclists <i>physically attacking</i> cars and their drivers.  One man who was assaulted is a bike activist who was in his car on a family outing, and when he yelled at a bicyclist for breaking traffic laws, the guy piked up his bicycle and beat the man&#8217;s car with it, then punched the driver!</p>
<p>To those who say these are the exceptions and not the rule, let me tell them they haven&#8217;t spent any significant time driving in Portland.  I&#8217;ve seen exactly TWO bicyclists stop for a stop sign in the last year, and both times it startled me so badly that I almost couldn&#8217;t believe I&#8217;d seen it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: thebastidge</title>
		<link>http://cosmicbabe.greyduck.net/journal/1474/comment-page-1#comment-12285</link>
		<dc:creator>thebastidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 07:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But they&#039;re not required to ride on a street posted 45mph in the middle of the lane, are they?

I bike quite a bit, but I don&#039;t think I personally own the street because of my amazing connection to Earth.

People do need to be more aware of bicyclists. I have had a couple friends clipped by assholes who didn&#039;t even stop. But we make our societal rules for the masses, not the outliers. Our infrastructure is (sadly) set up for automobile traffic nearly to the exclusion of other. We pretty much require a car just to be able to maintain gainful employment and get the basics we need to live (shopping).  Holier-than-thou bicyclists aren&#039;t helping anyone, much less their own cause when they make a nuisance of themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But they&#8217;re not required to ride on a street posted 45mph in the middle of the lane, are they?</p>
<p>I bike quite a bit, but I don&#8217;t think I personally own the street because of my amazing connection to Earth.</p>
<p>People do need to be more aware of bicyclists. I have had a couple friends clipped by assholes who didn&#8217;t even stop. But we make our societal rules for the masses, not the outliers. Our infrastructure is (sadly) set up for automobile traffic nearly to the exclusion of other. We pretty much require a car just to be able to maintain gainful employment and get the basics we need to live (shopping).  Holier-than-thou bicyclists aren&#8217;t helping anyone, much less their own cause when they make a nuisance of themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://cosmicbabe.greyduck.net/journal/1474/comment-page-1#comment-12283</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about Oregon&#039;s laws, but in California, anyone over 12 is *required* to ride on the streets, not the sidewalks. If there&#039;s no bike lane, they have to be in traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about Oregon&#8217;s laws, but in California, anyone over 12 is *required* to ride on the streets, not the sidewalks. If there&#8217;s no bike lane, they have to be in traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: GreyDuck</title>
		<link>http://cosmicbabe.greyduck.net/journal/1474/comment-page-1#comment-12272</link>
		<dc:creator>GreyDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. I&#039;d have sent you that one, but it was all about knitting instead of crocheting. *chuckle*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. I&#8217;d have sent you that one, but it was all about knitting instead of crocheting. *chuckle*</p>
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		<title>By: thebastidge</title>
		<link>http://cosmicbabe.greyduck.net/journal/1474/comment-page-1#comment-12267</link>
		<dc:creator>thebastidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, sweetheart, if I didn&#039;t already ♥ you, I would after this little screed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, sweetheart, if I didn&#8217;t already ♥ you, I would after this little screed.</p>
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